Polar Storms

Polar Storms

Looks like the MRO is tossing bones. Last release show a departing storm and snowscape
in Chasma Boreale. This image was taken on the 6th of July. A companion MARCI image from April 20th will also be presented. This would be 6 Earth weeks between, we most convert to Mars time and this would in reality represent 3 Mars weeks. On Earth the seasons last about 3 mo’s, on Mars about 6. Latitude of MRO image 84.7N

It would seem that Geologist see geological things and Meteorologist see metrological things.

MRO team says:

“HiRISE data allow us to see which side of these dunes has the steeper slope (the slip-face), telling us what direction the dune—and strong near surface winds—are moving (in this case the slip-faces point almost directly to the left).”

Then they wonder:

“Yet something else is also happening to these particular dunes. Dark streaks lead away from the dunes toward the lower left of the image.”

That would show wind shift with frontal passage.

The US Navy never lets a ship leave port without a weather crew on board. I suggest NASA should do the same. What has always amazed me is the reluctance of the Weather teams to simply say what they see and know to be true. Go figure.

So, what do I see? I see a departing storm to the north . Clouds and Snowfall with visibility reduced to total obscuration. Snowfall accumulations in troughs between dunes are greater north. Ground snow shows a steady storm track movement to the North, some areas appear to have missed out. This would be reasonable for spring and early summer. Southern sections shows residual winter snow in a sublimation stage

In my opinion the geological observations are incomplete without the meteorological data taken in context with the visible data. Bless their heart. The visible data at the Phoenix site supports air-mass development and movement, so does everything else. Without Phoenix showing frost development under varying conditions this thread would not be possible. That is why I put it here.

Image 1- Departing Polar Storm

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/2795792473_5851387d04_o.jpg

Image 2- Satellite data showing active storm track.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2472998857_ec997759f1_o.jpg

Fred

Side note:

I suspect the white areas in the MARSI image are in fact moisture plumes from between polygons. Subsurface eruptions would be the primary water source on Mars.

Conditions at the Spirit location has shown us great temperature contrast on the surface. This would produce dust devils. Until I see a thermal image showing this contrast and visible data showing dust devils in the area I an not buying it.

A few dust devil tracks in the satellite data would not hurt. Not a chance brother.

Fred

I just want the geo types to get them some of this. I know as we get older we nap most of the day and stay up all night. That is because we can not sleep, damn it.

Brian gets up at night I know. Ben, I hope you get up, lol. Winston, enjoy the ride.

Fred

Now guys. An Earth weatherman loves storms. We are entering a time of cooling and storm development on Earth. Water cools and heats slower than the land. A great area of storms are the Hudson Bay and Great Lakes of North America.

I see the storms forming in the Hudson Bay today. The Great Lakes are next. Yea Baby.

Fred
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iquCHSkmUek

Hort,

Do not award Darwin bottles to people that have not been in an Earth storm at sea.

Us sailors got to stick together. Even the dead ones.

Fred

Seems like the right song. Lets do science boys. Who would have thought he would have made it on a science forum, LOL.

Fred
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9nptjUs9FM

I am grateful to be back with the boys. This forum has the greatest freedom, the greatest image man and now the greatest weatherman.

See the snow fly? I like music.

Fred
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbigu8Kqihk

I am starting to think you guys think I am crazy.

Damn good song.

Fred

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o1V2uiagpU

youtube is human feces, complete and utter nonsense to the science world in all measures of man.

But I am not surprised Fred. You said you haven't an education. So the choice was easy for you!

dx

Dx,

Good to have you here brother. Lets look past the music.

What say you?

Fred

Dx,

You are talking to the best brother. Do not studier.

Fred

Dx,

If you do not understand atmospheric sciences I will play a song for you.

I believe that would put you in feces, or shit for those following along at home..

Come and get you some.

Fred

Dx,

A weatherman does love storms. Bring it or shush.

This is the Dx song. Let me say, “ I don’t think you know anything.”

Waiting brother.

Fred
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMvfAYEaE8c

Dx,

Glade you played along. No consolation prize. You are just another scientist want to be.

Fred

If you guys can not see the storm then shame on you. If you do not understand atmospherics then do not bother me. I am the best.

Fred

We are a long way past the mud at the Opportunity site.

Time for a Dana image. Mud on a large scale.

Fred

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2186/2143973321_ee5de6fe71_o.jpg

Hort,
Ref 4 - I accepted Hort's Darwin bottle without reservation coz I was out of line.

As far as rambling on about storms at sea etc go I served my time in the 60's/70's and to be honest never ran into a weatherman - (it wasn't a branch that existed). In one or 2 posts you actually manage to say something of possible interest. Why do you then have to devote the remainder of the time wrecking threads. Though I must admit you display impressive contortist abilities in being able to place both feet firmly in your mouth then stick your head up your own a**.

That last was me. Don't know what happened with the 'Darwin' appelation.

Brian,

We finally agree I can crap up a thread. You are correct in the fact that we have had a rare look at Polar weather on Mars. I hope it was interesting. It was the most exciting MRO image I ever saw.

As far as weatherman at sea if you were part of a battle group I am sure the carrier had one. If you were alone I am sure there was a couple on board.

Fred

Crap up a THREAD? On THIS thread, started by YOU, the first SEVEN responses were by YOU. YOU have crapped up the entire FORUM. PLEASE, please, just GO AWAY. Why were you banned? Lack of etiquette and arrogance. Why come back to an otherwise civil and polite forum? The consequences are only GOOD posters giving up and leaving. We learn SO little from you. Stay in the weather forums and LEAVE US ALONE.